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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2010, 02:20:07 pm »
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Grin Grin Grin Don't let your wife see this post Mate . Thats how we use to test uncut diamonds when we were not sure


I used to wonder why you weren't fabulously wealthy. Now I know.

You do know that particular test is an old wive's tale, right? It's a practical joke to get people to crush their diamonds. I wonder how many beautiful specimens you have crushed over the years. Trust me. I'm not laughing.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2010, 02:20:34 pm »
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 Grin Grin But this is only done on uncut diamonds

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2010, 02:23:01 pm »
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Diamond dust is not worth nearly as much as a 2 carat specimen is, Xavier. You've been had, mate.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2010, 02:24:16 pm »
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GD I've dived diamonds for years on the west coast South Africa you can't crush a diamond by hand but you can crush it with a hammer diamonds are sensitive to shock not pressure.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2010, 02:28:12 pm »
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It all depends on the alignment of the internal fracture lines. You can crush a diamond. Unfortunately, once you crush it, you normally toss the detritus away and you toss away the evidence at the same time. There are far better and easier tests to make. A ceramic streak test is non destructive. I'm afraid you really have been fed a wive's tale on this one. Seriously.

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2010, 02:40:18 pm »
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So.....a flawless UNCUT diamond will possibly survive the pliers test, but anything less than perfect and it gets to be dicey depending upon how the pliers and the faults and the stars line up   Undecided   


Where's my super glue?   I need to see if I can put all that "quartz" dust back together.

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That's about it, BA. The diamond will either be pulverized or fracture. In either case, you damage a possible gemstone quality diamond. In the field, the commercial diamond miners use refractometry as a quick and dirty test. Diamonds have a signature refraction index. The streak test is also handy in the field because a ceramic disc can be kept in your pocket.

A clean, dry diamond can be heat tested using a small, hand held tester but field use is difficult because the samples are not always clean and dry. It only takes a very small amount of heat which is transferred through the diamond to the sensor. Knowing the mass of the diamond, the tester will give accurate results.

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2010, 02:51:32 pm »
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A clean, dry diamond can be heat tested using a small, hand held tester but field use is difficult because the samples are not always clean and dry. It only takes a very small amount of heat which is transferred through the diamond to the sensor. Knowing the mass of the diamond, the tester will give accurate results


Clearly NOT a test that Xavier can use when he's diving for diamonds.

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2010, 03:00:44 pm »
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True, BA, but the pliers test is one way of making any diamond that makes it to market that much more rare. Know what I mean?

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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2010, 03:34:01 pm »
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LOL!   As Diamonds are Worthless, it's all Mute.

Try selling a Used Diamond.   Great

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