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« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2010, 02:38:08 am »
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Hi Fredio,

I'm glad to read you and that this topic interests you. Unfortunately like many sites it is protected.

Luc  Wink


i add some old pictures of Gisors

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« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2010, 10:38:52 pm »
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I can only imagine how exciting it must have been back in the 1800s and before. So many old places were just forgotten relics and few people cared about them. I think I could wander about for weeks just looking at the masonry work and how it all flows together.

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« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2010, 05:55:16 am »
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HI Idaho Jones

You still need to go to the evidence that the builders of these castles were brilliant workers because  with rudimentary tools, they left us their works testimony, despite the damage caused by wars.

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« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2010, 08:25:05 am »
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It's a lesson we need to heed today. Our craftsmanship has fallen into a world of disposable things. How many things that you or I own will survive a thousand years of time?

These amazing places were built as defensable strongholds and yet the architecture of many is more pleasing (at least to me) than most modern buildings I can think of. Add to that all the history involved to complete an amazing package.

I wonder if the vision of the builder as he placed that first stone was anything close to the finished product?   Smiley

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« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2010, 04:52:57 am »
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Hi Luc.,  I thought you may be interested in a cave with many templer carvings and messages. Who Knows, there might be a chain of similar places each like a part of a jig-saw puzzle.
    Try..............   

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Hi Luc ,  I thik the website I stated is not now available, but I have since found Ben Hammott has details of the Royston Cave on his website.
  Or anyone interested in the Gisor carvings should tap `Royston Cave`
in to their search engine.
            Regards, Fredio.

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« Reply #85 on: July 12, 2010, 05:04:44 am »
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Hello fredio

Here is link about an earlier posting about Royston Cave.

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« Reply #86 on: July 12, 2010, 05:18:17 am »
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Hi Hardluck,  here is me thinking no one widely knew about these other sites and caves with carvings simmilar to those at Gisors. I thank you for the info, and the speed in which you replied.
   All these Templers knew certain secrets , or so it is claimed, so overall there may be pieces of that story in a few different locations.
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« Reply #87 on: July 12, 2010, 05:51:54 am »
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Hello Fredio

It is very hard to know what is myth and what is fact in regards to the Templar's. There are so many outragous claims about them. It has been very fashionable for persudo historians and societies to make connections with them. The trouble is most is speculation and hearsay.

Perhaps the Vatican library will one day reveal her secrets to us and help unravel some of the mysteries that surround the Templars.

But of course that could be when you know what freezes over  Grin

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« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2010, 12:46:26 pm »
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I wonder if anyone has done any patina testing on the Royston carvings? Like the recently discovered religious fake inscriptions of the James Ossuary, we could date the carvings by the age of the patina. If samples date significantly earlier than 1700 then the site could be real. Or as in the case of the ossuary, real with additions Smiley



 

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« Reply #89 on: July 14, 2010, 05:40:08 am »
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Hi hardluck,  I dont think there is any doubt the Royston Cave carvings are anything but genuine. At the time it was discovered there was no gain  to be had by forgery and it was well documented by the people of royston. It is a pity they didn`t protect the carvings from visitors who started a fashion to carve their names or initials into and over the exsisting carvings thus making it harder to decipher the original messages.
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Sorry Idaho Jones,  I called you Hardluck....... it was hardluck that I got it wrong again, sorry. Idiot

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