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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2010, 06:38:18 pm »
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Resonant_frequency_of_gold


Most Micro Waves use 2 or 4 Mhz!

Jump in a industrial size one and tell me if you see it Glow   Great   Funny!

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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 06:43:54 pm »
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Ho boy, I hate to do this, but here goes.

At a subatomic level, each element has a different vibration due to the valance band activity.  Now vibration= frequency.

These are usually very high, so one of the Harmonics is used to match, say every 100 th pulse. When these are in sync, a type of resonate frequency causes a "link".

I'll look for the link to the study that was done on this, been a long time since I saw it.

Similar metals "talk " to each other on a subatomic level even at a distance.

Overlook my choice of words, I can't remember the exact phrasing of that study, but that's the idea.

Now don't jump me for the results of the study, I didn't do it.    

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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2010, 06:52:40 pm »
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Now don't jump me for the results of the study, I didn't do it.    


Just a rational observation here....but, you did not supply the results of the study. You simply posted your recollection, which could be right or wrong.

Once you cite the study, and its results...then maybe we can jump    Wink

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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2010, 07:00:48 pm »
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Similar metals "talk " to each other on a subatomic level even at a distance.

Well that explains the market

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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2010, 07:21:53 pm »
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I think the Craps tables talk to me on a subatomic level. Sometimes at a distance and sometimes not at a distance depending on where I am standing at the time the talk takes place.

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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2010, 07:24:19 pm »
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I must have some Edison in me.

I use to play with these when I was 10.

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2010, 08:40:15 pm »
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Hi Tom,

You seem to be passionate in your belief about the Escope. Unfortunately you could not be more mistaken.

I own 3 Escopes. I've personally tested them, tested people who use them, and dissected them. They have no real operational circuitry inside, just bits and pieces of junk, plus a lot of wire. I mean a lot of wire. When you take away the non-functional junk inside, what you are left with is a handle and a swivel box with 3 antennae sticking out... a dowsing rod. I know of 3 other independent dissections that came to the same conclusion.

I've tested three people who were supposedly expert users of Escopes, all of whom claimed they could easily locate gold with it. When I tested them using the slightest amount of scientific rigor, they could do no better than guessing. That's been true in my tests of other LRLs as well. No one can make them work better than guessing, at least when all hints are removed.

Yeah, those Escopes look cool, like something from Star Trek, with lots of knobs and switches and a meter... but those controls don't actually do anything. There is no transmitter. There is no receiver. I certainly won't argue with you over what's inside an F-111 as I've never looked, but I have looked inside the Escopes, so I know better. If you own an Escope, you could look, too.

I will also contest your statement:

if you believe the chemists and science all metals emit a natural freq.

and ask you where science makes this claim. Specifically, what is the "natural frequency" that gold emits?

Unfortunately, "Carl-NC" is now "Carl-NW," as I am now in Sweet Home, Oregon.

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2010, 09:08:51 pm »
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Found the links--www.Physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/U11L4c.html

http//cns-alumni.bu-edu/sleharl/webstuff/hrl1.html

Hope I didn't screw up the addresses

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2010, 10:51:27 pm »
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Quote:Posted by fenixdigger
At a subatomic level, each element has a different vibration due to the valance band activity.  Now vibration= frequency.

These are usually very high, so one of the Harmonics is used to match, say every 100 th pulse. When these are in sync, a type of resonate frequency causes a "link".

I'll look for the link to the study that was done on this, been a long time since I saw it.

Similar metals "talk " to each other on a subatomic level even at a distance.


Followed by, I assume, links to supporting articles:

Quote:Posted by fenixdigger
Found the links--www.Physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/U11L4c.html

http//cns-alumni.bu-edu/sleharl/webstuff/hrl1.html

Hope I didn't screw up the addresses


Yes, the second URL is botched. The first article covers mechanical vibrations, which is not what you are claiming.


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Hi Carl;

Good point. Here's how it usually goes for me. I'll get a signal in say a field of 300 acres. Triangulate it and close in. When I break out the Minelab or 2-box there will be something within 4 or 5 ft of the spot, sometimes right on the spot.

Now when I do this, I will scan as large of an area around it as I can with the detector. MOST of the time there is nothing around the item recovered. This is in corn or soybean fields, swamps, or forests.

If I do this in populated areas, it's different. I'm looking for areas people did things like socials, rally's, picnics, any meetings. So the scan always turns up other items.

It's way hard for me to believe that I'm that lucky, or guessed that good in the fields. Most of the spots end up in a place I would never pick to go look. Like everyone when I get out to hunt, I pick out the likely area before hand, but it never pans out. The devices don't agree with my choices, so my initial guess is off.


Fenix,

After the dowser told me he had 5-out-of-7 "hits", I suggested that he try a second experiment, whereby he randomly toss 7 tennis balls into his yard, and metal detect each spot in the same manner as the dowsed spots. Out of curiosity, I tried this very experiment myself.

I randomly tossed 7 tennis balls in my back yard, then used a metal detector to determine how far from each tennis ball a piece of metal was buried. Results were:

3.5"  5.5"  10"  13"  13.5"  21.5"  52.5"

The dowser I was talking to had dowsed 7 spots in his yard, and 5 of them had buried metal between 4" and 14" from the spots. I thought it very bizarre that my tennis ball toss gave essentially identical results. As you can see, all of my results were within 4-1/2 feet. Magic tennis balls? I doubt it.

Obviously, his dowsing and my ball-tossing can't really be compared, because the locations are completely different. My yard might be saturated with trash, while his yard might have had only 5 buried metal objects, and he found all there was. I suspect not. But it does illustrate that what appears at first to be an impressive dowsing result might not be so impressive after all. It's important to look closer, and not jump to conclusions.

Yes, I got your PM.

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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2010, 04:45:46 am »
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Carl,
The scopes you looked at must be different from the ones I've seen as they contain circuit boards,10 turn reostats,switches and some wire.  with the coins and gold I've found with a 301 I don't think you will convince me they don't work as mine and my friends all are finding more targets than we used to.  The prospector in ariz with the 100oz of gold which by the way is more than most prospectors find in a lifetime sure believes in his.
The local minelab dealer said that particular gentlemen and his two buddies find more gold in the stanton
rich hill area than all the other prospectors that visit the area each year.

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