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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2010, 05:56:36 am »
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Carl,
The scopes you looked at must be different from the ones I've seen as they contain circuit boards,10 turn reostats,switches and some wire.  with the coins and gold I've found with a 301 I don't think you will convince me they don't work as mine and my friends all are finding more targets than we used to.  The prospector in ariz with the 100oz of gold which by the way is more than most prospectors find in a lifetime sure believes in his.
The local minelab dealer said that particular gentlemen and his two buddies find more gold in the stanton
rich hill area than all the other prospectors that visit the area each year.

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So,...... let me get this straight.
You claim to know electronics (or trained at least).
This is the best description you can give?..... some circuit boards..... some wires?
Long time since I've heard anyone describe a potentiometer as a "Rheostat"......
Thomas Edison using an "Electroscope"....... still grinning about that one....
Random Chance my friend...... that's ALL that happens.
Someone won 65 MILLION u.k. pounds on the lottery here a little while back...... they weren't using an Electroscope.... RANDOM CHANCE........again.
There's a lot of interesting mathematical formulae about "Random Chance" on the web.
In fact, it's a whole branch of mathematics on its own.

Let me add to this,that I have personally taken an "Electroscope" apart for a guy who foolishly bought one here in the U.K.
(you wouldn't be able to buy one here now as our trading standards laws are too strict)
There is NOTHING inside that serves any purpose whatsoever!
The "circuit board" after being freed up from the plastic it had been potted in was just a 555 timer running as an oscillator... thats ALL....just to flatten the battery over a period of time to assure the hapless owner that it was working.
probably less than 5 dollars worth of components.
I'd like to see manufacturers of these rip off pieces of junk shot at dawn!


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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2010, 07:47:27 am »
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Hi Carl;

That's a great idea. I'll throw 10 golf balls in the field and check. The yard won't work as the farmhouse is 100 yrs old and the yard has clutter. I do have 2 small signals in the yard from the LRLs and started to look for one of them. It's close to a big tree and I stopped when I got to the roots. Other is under the sidewalk, not messing with that one, but maybe I can go around the roots.

Let you know how it goes.

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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2010, 08:32:42 am »
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While your laughing you might go to google books on page 108 of the wizard and read about Thomas Edison using an electroscope to check for a charge.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2010, 09:46:59 am »
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Your Electroscope works most well for Charged Items and Charge sources.

I really can't see it finding the Minuscule charges coming off gold or silver even if it was a Isotope.

In the military we used Dosimeters that worked on the same principles.  (Charged Particals)

It could tell you your going to DIE!

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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2010, 10:07:40 am »
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Tom,

It wouldn't surprise me to find an Escope that has a circuit board in it... heck, it wouldn't surprise me to find one containing dried fish. I've heard that other Escopes have contained all sorts of rubbish inside. One Escope owner I know opened his unit to find a circuit board and even a speaker, they just weren't connected in a usable way.

Another LRL called the "Lectra Search" (I own 4 of these) contains a scrap surplus circuit board that has some wires connected to it, but the circuit board does nothing but give the casual observer the impression that there is a real, operational circuit inside. I own over 30 LRLs, and have had a number of other loaners sent to me for analysis, and I am no longer the least bit surprised by what I find inside. The people who build these things have, shall we say, a serious deficiency in integrity.

Sounds to me like that prospector is just a good prospector. I guarantee the Escope has no ability to find gold. Heck, I'll even put up $25,000 on that statement!

While your laughing you might go to google books on page 108 of the wizard and read about Thomas Edison using an electroscope to check for a charge.

Tom, I hope you understand the RealScience electroscope has nothing whatsoever to do with the WishScience Electroscope, other than spelling. Had Afilani spelled it "Electroscam" probably no one would buy it.

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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2010, 10:19:38 am »
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LOL!   Wise  Idea  Exhausted

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2010, 03:17:45 pm »
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Sorry wrong board wrong thread. Multitasking what a grand adventure!

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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2010, 04:00:15 pm »
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Quote:Posted by fenixdigger
Found the links--www.Physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/U11L4c.html

http//cns-alumni.bu-edu/sleharl/webstuff/hrl1.html

Hope I didn't screw up the addresses


The references you have cited does not validate, or support the results of the study in to your recollection. Could your recollection be slightly skewed?

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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2010, 07:15:56 pm »
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Wouldn't be the first time.  But I did try. These were two of the best descriptions of the reactions used in the theory for lrl's to work at some level.

Carl; here's the results of the 10 golf ball test.

10 balls in the yard---Metal items within 10 ft of all balls.  House  over 100 yrs. old. Items ranged from nails to modern pull tabs.

10 balls in the field---No metal around any ball, went to 15 ft circle.

This kind of takes random chance out of the equation in the fields. This should be the same in the forest or swamp unless I hit an old home site. This has happened before (a lot) but the LRL put me there to start with.   

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 01:47:13 am »
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10 balls in the yard---Metal items within 10 ft of all balls.  House  over 100 yrs. old. Items ranged from nails to modern pull tabs.


Wow, I bet that was surprising ............ in a yard..............  Grin

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