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« on: September 24, 2010, 09:54:46 am »
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I have maintained for years that some naysayers either knowingly or unknowingly are misapplying electronics theory when they claim about MFD's "It can't possibly work." For years Dell has said "Think magnetic." I certainly don't claim to be any kind of electronics genius, but I seem to understand a basic reality that some people can't seem to grasp -- LRL's work. Now after reading a small bit about the Witricity I see it IS the magnetic component of the coil that is used and the electrical component is filltered/blocked out through some capacitor bank and the orientation of the coil itself. So all the whining about how an MFD signal can't possibly propogate waves (or however you spell it) is just a red herring.

 

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 02:21:45 pm »
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but I seem to understand a basic reality that some people can't seem to grasp -- LRL's work.



Sigh............ Dream on.......


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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 02:57:10 pm »
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If all those LRLs really worked, you'd be fabulously wealthy and wouldn't have time for this forum. What you're doing is spewing nonsense in the hopes that someone else will be suckered in and you won't feel so lonely.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010, 03:51:50 pm »
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I have maintained for years that some naysayers either knowingly or unknowingly are misapplying electronics theory when they claim about MFD's "It can't possibly work." For years Dell has said "Think magnetic." I certainly don't claim to be any kind of electronics genius, but I seem to understand a basic reality that some people can't seem to grasp -- LRL's work. Now after reading a small bit about the Witricity I see it IS the magnetic component of the coil that is used and the electrical component is filltered/blocked out through some capacitor bank and the orientation of the coil itself. So all the whining about how an MFD signal can't possibly propogate waves (or however you spell it) is just a red herring.

 


This is very misleading. You cannot "naysay" something that has not been scientifically evaluated and classified plausible. Just because there are camps who oppose the chicanery and pseudoscience put forth by manufactures....does not make them naysayers. It makes them logical and open minded enough to evaluate the data put forth and make an educated decision



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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 09:46:26 pm »
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...but I seem to understand a basic reality that some people can't seem to grasp -- LRL's work.


Show me. $25,000 if you can successfully demonstrate an LRL in a randomized blind test. Or, you can refuse, offer up a platter of excuses, and then blame me for your "inability."



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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010, 02:10:20 pm »
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   No no!  Having reviewed, and considered Carl's challenge test in the past, it certainly doesn't apply to the use of LRL's in practical  field use. it's definitely a scientific pretenders beg for attention "gimmick" copycatted from a magician, The Amazing Randi's long running publicity gimmick.

It will be just as easy to win Randi's $1m challenge which has never ever been officially won in 22 years of running as it is to win Carl's 25,000. Both are a publicity gimmick.

I would like to see Carl, redesign his $25,000 challenge test for metal detector manufacturers, and owners and see if any metal detector can pass a test he designs and win his $25,000.  Not likely!

Does anybody here think Carl, is so stupid as to offer a win-able test that will cost him $25,000?  I don't think so.  It's merely a sleazy gimmick to promote himself.  Dell

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 02:40:48 pm »
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I am now trying something new to distinguish between the micro and real target. If this works, I will be talking to Carl.

Right now my percentage is too low, but that could change if I can filter those hot spots out.

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2010, 02:47:35 pm »
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Isn't it funny how all you "LRL" guys run for the hills when ANY independent test is mentioned??   No no! No no!
Oh .... and please point out where these tests are "unfair" ........ because I sure as hell can't!


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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2010, 02:56:55 pm »
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"I would like to see Carl, redesign his $25,000 challenge test for metal detector manufacturers, and owners and see if any metal detector can pass a test he designs and win his $25,000".

Get Carl, to design a metal detector test that he is willing to give you $25,000 if you pass, and then you will understand.   Dell

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2010, 03:03:31 pm »
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Not sure if it is fair or not, but I think Carl would give you a sporting chance. Everybody that knows about this topic wants to know the truth. The truth is different from each perspective. For example; I'm happy with 1 or 2 out of 10 signals being real. Some want 100% to be convinced. I don't think that will ever happen.

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