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« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2010, 04:17:41 am »
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Hey Luc,

I think so : too long. And my memory was failing again.

 It "is" not between St Gilles and Moustiers but between St Gilles and Gr?oux les Bains in Alpes de Hautes Provence, also too long.

Possibly the reality is : there are undergrounds at Saint-Gilles, at Gr?oux les Bains, and one under the Rh?ne between Beaucaire and Tarascon ( that one is quite sure, like between Avignon and Villeneuve les Avignon.)

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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2010, 05:03:09 am »
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Hello all

As interesting  tunnel legends are....legends of secret tunnels is very common in European culture and folklore. The belief in them was so strong the Europeans exported their beliefs to the new world. South America and central America is a prime example full of tunnel stories.

Nostradamus and the treasure of Emperor Trojan ( The treasure of Jerusalem ), the fate of this treasure was an still is an age old mystery. Nostradamus however interesting, we must be very weary of his work. His predictions were written in quatrains to protect himself from being burned at the stake for being a witch. His rhymes can be interpenetrated in many ways leaving meanings open for people to manipulate.

In regards to Carthusian Monastery of Villeneuve les Avignon. The history of before it belonged to the order is interesting. However I am not convinced that an ancient treasure was buried there. Because I Cannot see any Pope giving his summer palace away if there was a hint of buried treasure there?

The treasure that may possibly may still be there is the remainder of the treasure belonging to Carthusian monks. I cannot see that they had the capacity to remove and large amounts of treasure when they was expelled.

That said I  must admit there seems to some very interesting connections with the Bishop of Carcassonne, The painters David Teiners and Nicolas Poussin. What and how the Carthusian Monastery of Villeneuve les Avignon are connected with Rennes Le Chateau is mystery, if of course they are connected at all?

I suggest we look deeper into construction of the church at Carthusian Monastery of Villeneuve les Avignon and its early history before it became the private chapel of the fathers.

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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2010, 06:47:54 am »
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Hi all
I looked at the possibilities of underground according to what "Delmonte" has provided us.

Some information I found except for Beaucaire and Tarascon.

Regarding St Gilles du Gard
The Templar Commandery St Gilles-du-Gard was connected by a tunnel to the Commandery of Arles

On Gr?oux-les-Bains
The oldest document signed by the temple on Gr?oux-les-Bains, the date of 1137. It concerns three properties of the Knights Templar. Writing recounts significant work on the castle around 1145 and another written mention of a blocked drain and other flows in the fortified perimeter Templar Gr?oux-les-Bains ... It should be noted that Gr?oux-les-bains is a spa town with a network of underground water ....

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« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2010, 04:47:54 am »
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Hello Luc and Delmonte

Thank you for the interesting posts.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Most christian sites were built over pagan sites or early sites relating to saints. Villeneuve Avignon is or was dedicated to at one time to St John the Baptist.( You can see the story of this saint on the walls of the church used by the fathers )

It is possible that church was built over a cave with a spring. Sacred spring site was often taken over by the christian church and dedicated to a saint?

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« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2010, 04:06:15 pm »
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Hello hardluck

Abbaye of St Andrew was built over a pagan site dedicated to Sylvanus, the roman god of forests. First was put on the site the hermitage of holy Casarie. The visitors were so numeros and generous that it was decided to built the Abbaye which became very rich.

Surelly there is full of water under the Chartreuse of Villeneuve lez Avignon and several wells never dry. But a spring, it's possible (?) I don't know.

There is certainly a crypt under the Chartreuse, but deeply built and not found...I suppose.

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« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2010, 10:22:55 pm »
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Hello Delmonte

As we can see the Abbey has been built over successive generations. The oldest part of the Abbey is the church itself and whatever was before it. From its style of church we could say it is Romanesque in design that is fairly common in Southern Europe. In researching the age of the church and design in common with other church buildings of the same date and design. The entry to underground crypts was nearly always entered from outside of the church.

I am not sure why, but perhaps Luc knows some thing about this?

It is interesting to note that there was a cemetery nearby in the original cloistered gardens. This may indicate two things either there was no crypt or the crypt was used for some thing else?

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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2010, 12:58:05 pm »
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Please find this link on the photo archive for "Villeneuve-lez-Avignon. These documents are posted by the French Ministry of Culture. To access the following pages, simply click on the numbers at the bottom of pages. There are interesting things for those following this case closely.

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« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2010, 06:29:42 am »
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Hello Luc

Well done  Great

In finding these old photographs of the old priory.

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« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2010, 08:30:49 am »
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Many thanks Hardluck, pleasure.

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« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2010, 06:33:42 pm »
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Very intriguing place.  Great

Can the age of the cemetary be determined? Perhaps that will give a clue as to when (if) the crypt may have been reassigned and perhaps what addition it is under? Just a thought Smiley



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