possible kgc markings

Ok, Haven....a) did those expeditions reach Oklahoma?  I don't think so, but I could be wrong.  b) not only would the tree be much older than most trees in Oklahoma, but it would ALSO have to be in an area geologically conducive to gold or silver deposit.   So while it is just barely possible that the scenarios you set up could explain the marks, the odds are probably much better of successfully drawing to an inside straight flush 5 times in a row at a poker table.   There are a lot of explanations other than your "King's treasure" that are far more plausible.   I know I'm not likely to convince you since you seem to have your mind pretty much made up already, but for the rest of the people out there --- you should not leave logic and a knowledge of human nature, history, and geology at home in the attic when you go out hunting for treasure.   The fanciful, romantic solution, while occassionally true, is far more often the stuff of hack fiction than reality and focusing on it to the exclusion of the more mundane but more likely answers can get in the way of seeing what really is there.

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Ok, Haven, we have some common ground there.   Bottom line:
a) the hearts and the turkey tracks may or may not be related ---- they may not even be from the same time period.  In fact the odds are that they are not.
b) the carvings are most likely the work of one or more bored and/or lovesick persons with some time on their hands and nothing else to do (i.e. camped out in the area or picnicking or something)
c) if not b then they could be legitimate trail markers NOT related to treasure left by persons currently unknown at a time unknown
d) if not b or c, they could be the work of a prankster who has heard or read about treasure signs and just wanted to have some fun
e) if not b, c, or d, they could be legitimate treasure signs left by a currently unknown miser or an outlaw living/operating in the area
f) if not b, c, d, or e, they could be legitimate treasure or trail markers left by a famous outlaw or outlaw gang such as the James, the Youngers, or the Wild Bunch
g) if not b, c, d, e, or f, they could have been left by the Knights of the Golden Circle
h) if not any of the above and if the area either has known gold/silver deposits and if there is other evidence that can be found in the immediate vicinity (say anywhere in the surrounding 3 counties) of Mexican or Spanish occupation (more than just passing through), they could be "Spanish"

b through h are listed in order from most likely to least likely......and as you move from one letter to the next, the odds against increase exponentialy....so b is by far the most likely option.  Once you get to option  f, you getting into the same type of odds as if you were trying to win the jackpot in the lottery.

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	Its very possible they may have been passed down from generation to generation it could be 2nd or 3rd generation spanish from those members of those lost last expeditions who never make it back to Spain! They would have continued doing what they did best mining and taught their children as well! BA you have to admitt its not only possible but plausible human beings will adapt survive then thrive whenever given the smallest of chances. Could have been left by mexicans they adopted alot of the spanish symbols and methods in the absence of the spaniards it could easily be Mexicans that left the symbols!

That s the biggest load of nonsense I have read in awhile. The Spanish spent little or no time in Oklahoma. There was nothing there that interested them.
All this sign talk  is just armchair treasure hunters fantasy without historical research to back it up.
This thread was about KGC signs and like other threads was turned into a thread about Spanish signs by the dreamers.
Get it back on topic are.

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OK we have had enough of this nonsense This thread is lock and will lock other sign threads as they come argumentative. 10o's of post a day and all the trouble stems from 2 or 3 users and a dozen post. Its time for it to end.
Lets get back to talking treasure and not nonsense  

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After talking with several other mod's we have decided its not fair to members to lock the thread so we will just mute the trouble makers so others can discuss signs if they wish.

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Its not a credible sources its a mass market book of no value in the treasure world.

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