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     Gisors is a city of Department of the Eure (France). Former capital of Vexin, is located about 70 km from the center of Paris.
          Gisors is a city of 27 140 inhabitants and is headquarters of the Eure Township.
          Gisors in the middle ages played a great role in History of France and England. High place builds on the edges of the Epte she long was the issue of the Kings of the two kingdoms.
        
          The Castle built on a feudal mound by Robert II de Bell?me on order King of England William II Roux (1087-1100), Normandy Duchy Regent , the current Castle enclosure is French construction ordered by Philippe-Auguste, who took advantage of removal of Richard Coeur de lion to grab the fortress. At his comeback, King Richard replied to this affront by the foundation of the Andelys forecastle.
           It is also at Gisors that Philippe Auguste ordered the crusade to go free the tomb of the Christ.

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    The castle is the object of a collation as historical monuments since 1862.
The castle of Gisors is renowned for its links with the history of the order of the temple. Indeed This castle transformed, also served in prison.
    It will welcome hosts famous in the wave of the Knights Templar Knights arrest: the Fortress thus became the grand master of the order detention place Jacques Molay, joined in the jails of the Castle by three other dignitaries of order: Hughes Pairaud, Geoffrey de Gonneville Poitou and Aquitaine Preceptor, and Geoffrey de Charney, Preceptor of Normandy.   Many graffiti from Knights Templar have been discovered.
   Note all the same that this castle from the earliest times linked the temple and its legendary existence was busy than two years by the Knights monks. Gisors is a passage in the great epic brain ensuing persecution of soldiers of Christ, but what passage and that of mysteries....

    The exceptional Château de Gisors, one of the most beautiful in France, has suffered greatly from the case of its hidden treasures. "The magic combination of the words" treasures "and "Templars" attracted to the Epte Valley of" little enlightened amateurs unfortunately devoid of any compunction. Armed picks and shovels, this cloud has unsuccessfully drilled the mound in all feel the transforming it into an unstable Swiss cheese.

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    The castle is consisting of an imposing Dungeon, established on a mound of about 20 meters of Top 70 meters wide. It is surrounded by a ditch, completed a enclosure measuring approximately 200 meters long and 10 meters high, flanked towers, whose most famous rest the Tower of the prisoner. Several underground are established under the Castle.
 The Gisors case is a matter that to the beginning of the 1960s, it sink much ink.

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An author, its business journalist published a book entitled: "The Templars are among us."
By this book, the reader discovered the history lived Gérard de Séde, the author of this book.
At  a time where Gérard de Séde had decided to engage in the pig farming, it hired a man, Roger Lhomoy, put to him tell a fabulous story.
    Since his childhood,. Roger Lhomoy, Vexin Normand, child had heard of the legend of a treasure that was buried in the Gisors Castle. In the years forty Roger Lhomoy able to hire as guardian of the Castle. Here,. It can carry out its research in worry. The City Hall, then owner the Castle shall make available a function of the overall housing medieval. What windfall for our researcher! From the moment its researcher activities begin. In the evening, dice the garden doors are closed, Roger Lhomoy powers at work. It seeks.
The years of occupations by the German army slow its work.

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But dice the release of 1944, Roger, resumes its work so hard. It begins by searching at the foot of the Dungeon mound. Eventually find a that will be other than the Castle as we underground excavations them are currently experiencing. Some of the presence of a treasure, Lhomoy decides to resume its work in a new area of the Castle. Rising on the clod and penetrating into the surrounding wall of the Donjon, he decided to clear  the well of the donjon blocked for several years..
     Penetrating inside it descends in the antrum. It descends until about 30 meters in depth. There, one part of the wall collapses and hurts Lhomoy. Victim of a fracture of the leg, he stopped his researches  during his convalescence. Delivered, Lhomoy do not wish to return to the Dungeon has barely wells cost him the life.

     Certain of his idea, he decides to make an excavation a few meters from the wells. We are in June 1944. It makes one of his friends in the confidence, a certain Mr. Lessenne, which subsequently becomes itself castle goalkeeper. This same Lessenne will be witness to a surprising discovery. Digging and reaching about  16 meters,. Lhomoy updates an unknown room of 4 metres on 4 approximately. Regrettably, it  is empty. It does not make the affair  of the guard which decides to continue. Before, it stop up the room. Then without any valid ground, he(it) starts again digging in the horizontal on a distance of 9 meters meadows.. It is easy to imagine working conditions. Such a mole it hollow a new vertical gallery that reaches approximately 4 meters. Purpose, it is to approximately 21 meters of Dungeon surface.
We are current March 1946. And then one day, Lhomoy takes the bar to mine serving him to dig strikes and sees the stones in block. It includes only it is in front of a wall.

     Releasing the clay It discovers a structure built flaked stone masonry. It liberates the joints of stones and eventually the push. He dares barely believe what his ears him do hear. An echo! Is that the victory? Lhomoy liberates  the hole. Realizes in front of a room wall of large dimension. It attempts to shed light on it but its precarious equipment him not to see everything. Brought into the room and there, he believes that his heart will stop. Let him speak, as did G?rard de S?de in his book, "the Templars are among us!": "".That I saw at that time there, I will forget it ever, because it was a fantastic show. I am in a Romane Chapel in Louveciennes stones, 30 meters wide of nine meters long, high stone of approximately four meters 50 to Keystone key. Immediately to my left, near the hole through which I had, there is an altar stone, too, as well as his tabernacle. My right all the rest of the building. On the walls halfway. supported by stone crow, statutes of Christ and the twelve apostles life-size. Of walls, laid on the ground stone coffin 2 meters long and 60 cm wide: there are 19. And in the nave, what lit my light is incredible: thirty coffers in precious metal. sorted columns of ten. And the trunk Word is not enough: it is rather cabinets procumbent should speak with cabinets which each measure 2.20 meters in length, 1.8 meters tall, 1.60 meters wide. ?

      The discovery of Lhomoy is incredible! It supports the legend and confirm! In any case it is that expresses the goalkeeper. Decided to claim its share of discovery, it is makes to the municipality of Gisors, to meet with the Mayor and let him see its discovery.

        A delegation from the City Hall went on the premises. No one dares down in Lhomoy wells. A representative of the Department, precisely in Town Hall that day, says: "gentlemen you have in front of you the work of one crazy! ? .
Only a certain Emile Beyne former officer of engineering, accepts from entering the hose. It will go almost at the end of the excavations of Lhomoy. But in front of the incurred risk and the lack of air, he will not go farther and will throw  stones in the opening and notices that " it resounds " It will be the only testimony which will go to the sense of Lhomoy.  Certainly Lhomoy tell  "i have seen" but another say "i have heard". For the city hall of Gisors, the affair will stay there. With authority, and without tempting the other searches, the excavations of Lhomoy will be walled up.. It will attempt during many years to be heard, both the municipality's only with of the Department. For many, Lhomoy will be more than an original in mind one little disturbed. It is exactly this story he told G?rard de S?de When the latter hired it as porcher. Before this incredible story. G?rard de S?de decided to write a story for a weekly strong draw.

        In parallel at the Lhomoy story, the Nazis have stayed and have looked something in Gisors... but one other person is interested meadows to Gisors in the person of Andr? Malraux (French Minister of Culture).

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In 1962, the Cultural Affairs on its Minister Andr? Malraux order is ask the seals on Gisors Dungeon.  Then at the end of September this Ministry instructs a the engineering to undertake searches .

      The suite is remarkable and Mr A. Malraux will follow the matter with more interest: journalists will be kept away from certain details and television does will never be allowed to shoot the excavations. As for the Freemasonry, which curiously will be interested very close in this affair, his persons in charge will declare that this enigma " does not look at the general public "! On what criteria these dignitaries could they rely to say such a thing?

       Although it is in 10 February 1964 the 12th Regiment of the engineering shall initiate the Dungeon excavations and Mr. Malraux, March 12, will announce the result negative searches. It was noted in excavations that zero hand reports It returns the word 'unknown civilisation'. Worse yet, the result will be rendered in terse manner by stating simply ' that there is nothing under the feudal mound of Gisors '... It can only stress in these accounts rendered a large number of omissions, change of opinion. inconsistencies and a stance to want to minimize to the extreme that would have been discovered by this regiment of engineering. Usually excavations Archaeological are entrusted to licensed archaeologists who obligation of publicizing the comprehensive reports on their work. In that case we can only be surprised that these works are realized by servicemen. However the approach would be meaningless if a.

      Malraux wants conceal these searches. Moment indeed where we have to do to the army and it is clear that the officers during this mission does leave Nothing filter that discovers their men... and especially the military are kept the 'reserve duty'... and reports will be only delivered to the relevant ministerial authority therefore never disclosed to the media!

      Can be say that there is in this process of Andr? Malraux an implacable desire keep the discoveries for the sole use of the State... and it cannot be that assume capitals or very serious reasons to justify such a luxury of safety!


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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 04:51:15 am »
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Hello Luc

Once again.

Thanks for the amazing story.

It is a pity that they do not partially reopen the tunnel excavations and explore with a small 12 meter fibre optical borer scope with camera?

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Hello again Hardluck


I agree with you, we can also use a radar on the ground to detect the presence of big cavity and without digging.
In better than the previous searches were fruitful and than we are not revealed the contents.
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Hello again Hardluck


I agree with you, we can also use a radar on the ground to detect the presence of big cavity and without digging.
In better than the previous searches were fruitful and than we are not revealed the contents.
Luc


Why is this being covered up, withheld??

What is your take on any reasons to hide the find(s)?

Is there any archaeological authority involved?

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Just a guess but maybe the Roman Church has influenced certain individuals that it would not be in the best interest of The Roman Church should they proceed and find something the church doesnt want revealed?
You couldnt trust those men in black as far as you can spit and as Kevin bloody Wilson say's and the priests love little boys OOOOOOO i cant say that in here lol

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 11:47:40 pm »
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Welcome Alan Hassell and hello to the accustomed,

It is necessary to know also that for the underground passages of Gisors, the other underground passages leave the tower towards the surrounding countryside, all were walled up for safety reasons.

In his book G?rard de S?de " The Knight Templars are among us " presents us a document dating 1696 stemming from a certain Alexandre Bourdet. This document represents us a view in section of a subterranean named chapel " subterranean Chapel saint-Catherine ". This document shows us a drawing close to the description of what made Lhomoy of its discovery. 
Nevertheless, except the manuscript Bourdet, there would be in the library of the Decorative arts of Paris an English engraving of romantic period which represents the crypt of the Castle of Gisors. Text of the legend leaves no doubt, it is translated: " the cleaned crypt of the Gisors castle ". Strange not?


It is true that the church in particular Vatican always looked, to bring its own truth without ever convincing really.

Except an business of church, there is also a men's business. It is necessary to know That the ancient Minister of Culture Mister Andr? Malraux was also interested in the esoteric underground passages of Rouen and in the castle of Salse. He would have demanded, to his services, the the oldest plans(shots) of the castle of Salse, one of the most remarkable military works of engineering in defensive fortress bound(connected) to the artillery.

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You have a very interesting project on your hands there Luc.  Maybe its worth hiring out GPR ground penetrating radar to get some idea as to what is underground that you cannot see. There appears to be a few walled up sections which may or may not of been from previous search attempts. You wont know until the entire area is surveyed possibly in conjunction with sat nav assistance for accuracy in retracing ones footsteps.
Your site reminds me of the Enclosure of the Ark and why we finally resorted to using GPR there however it was well worth it except we used Garmin Etrex to get out bearings on interesting features.
I wish you guys a load of luck in your research and hope you find your pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Stick with it. Well Done.
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many thanks Alan Hassell. Best ragrds
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many thanks Alan Hassell. Best ragrds
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Luc;

Interesting video, but I have another question: If all  this chicanery is going on, how are you going to do any GPR work? Surely someone will put a stick in the spokes, for you, n,est ce pas?? (It is amazing, I took 2 yrs of high school French and a lifetime of Michif dialect, and I NEVER get to use it!) Here you are, pulling this machine over the ground and some sleazy character asks you what you are doing. Your reply?? Mowing the lawn.

At least your video had decent sound volume, some previous videos, were so low I had to try to read lips, and that is hard to do, when the speakers head faces away from the camera!  Shocked  Grin

My computer has bad  sound but I did manage to understand some of it... great! Now, if some whiz would tell me how to save these video clips, I could gather a nice collection.

This is like a good book that one can not put down!

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Hello Goldigger,

Your French language is not so bad, next time you write in french  Grin Grin

In put below a link concerning plugin able to capture video file from web, if you are using Mozilla FireFox if you are using other like Internet Explorer see other links.
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You have informations on site for use it,to use it click on YouTube logo ( down on right side of the sceen video) and after Watch on Youtube to get the link using to make capture.

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