GoldHunter, I don't need your advice on provenance or anything else for that matter. This Colt revolver's origin and current owner and her relationship to the original owner are all documented and I have the documentation. As far as the original owner, he is stated in the letter. I submitted what you said you wanted but, like every other piece of evidence submitted, you just go off on another tangent. Your motives are very clear to me if not to everyone else reading this. I've dealt with your kind for 5 years now and I long ago quit trying to convince the unconvinceable. It makes no difference to me whether you believe anything I say, pretend not to believe anything I say or document, or agree with anything I say and document. You may be aware of a fellow by the name of Ron West aka "Alec" on some treasure websites. He is exactly like you but as recently as 2003, he was convinced that what KGC hunters today say is correct. Now, he says he's seen the light but doesn't share that light with anyone else. Suspicious motives? I know so. Here is the documentation to this new series of events:
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I urge you all to read this thread where one of the longtime members of
treasurenet just exposed Ron West by using his own words against him. Ron West,
who writes on okietreasurehunter's blogs and websites, is now probably the
loudest critic of the KGC and their massive treasure caches. What goes around
comes around.
Happy Holidays!
~Jay~
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Re: Knights of the Golden Circle after the Civil War
Reply To This Topic #158 Posted Yesterday at 08:15:44 PM Quote
Quote from: alec on Yesterday at 02:28:47 PM
I'm sure that there were people around in the early 1900's that had been members
of the KGC but for them to have been moving caches and re-marking the locations
with new carvings and markers there would have had to have been caches to
move/re-mark.
That's interesting...these are your words, not mine... I actually don't believe
they moved caches or changed the carvings but you do. Yammie only knows what he
reads on the internet from "trustworthy" sources.
Alec wrote:
They also came back and moved some caches to other spots within the originall
areas the cahce was located in, changing the clues/carvings along the way. When
this was done they also changed the type of code at the site so that someone
following the original clues would not/could not read the second code, therefore
making it extremely difficult to locate the cache.
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Re: Knights of the Golden Circle after the Civil War
Reply To This Topic #159 Posted Today at 06:40:51 AM Quote
You got me there boattow, I don't remember writing that but at one time I did
beleive that. Too bad you didn't post the date that I wrote that and it would be
obvious that was back when I did believe the myths and before I did any of my
own research. I have said repeatedly since then that I have come to my senses.
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Re: Knights of the Golden Circle after the Civil War
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Thanks Boattow for quoting Ron's post from 2003. Here is the entire message:
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[2003 post by Ron West]
Re: KGC on state lines
February 17, 2003 at 14:41:45
In Reply to: Re: KGC IN CALIFORNIA
posted by Richard on February 17, 2003 at 13:21:16
"Richard,
You have part of the equation correct when you say that the KGC like to put down
caches on state lines. You just haven't gone far enough. The KGC used several
different "lines" when placing caches in the ground and sometimes the only thing
you had was one or two clues that indicate what line and where to begin. The
"line" caches were originally designed to be worked using a transparent overlay
onto a regular county/topographical map of the time. The small number of clues
were just there to tell you that you are in the right spot and to indicate where
the overlay should be used.
The KGC operated into the 1900s (approximately 1916), continually putting caches
in the ground until that time. They also came back and moved some caches to
other spots within the originall areas the cahce was located in, changing the
clues/carvings along the way. When this was done they also changed the type of
code at the site so that someone following the original clues would not/could
not read the second code, therefore making it extremely difficult to locate the
cache.
They were very tricky in how they placed their caches, using several hidden
reverses along the way, decoys and a mixture of code. They knew the geology and
geography of the area where the cache was placed and in some instances used
engineers to place the caches. This was not a group of lazy men nor were they
stupid.
Good luck in your hunting! "
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I think this expose is hilarious considering that "Alec" has been so vehement in
his opposition to everything that he stated in this post just a few years ago!
Now the big question is, well, I suppose you all can figure that out.
~Texas Jay
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