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« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2013, 09:57:33 am »
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According to Keehn


Yes According, NOT Fact, According to Keehn = just his views not what was/is or will be


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« Reply #121 on: May 23, 2013, 10:36:54 am »
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I admire these folks passion but that same passion often clouds their judgement, Very much so like the first few posts on this Topic seem to be more of an issue than a discussion


Passion is an important part of what we do but as you state when it clouds judgement it becomes a anchor that brings you to a dead stop.

Was there a KGC? Yea probable just like dozen of other small  groups operating in those times. Just a bunch of unorganized bullies using the war for personal gain taking. Not a group organized to help the south or to promote slavery but to line their on pockets.   


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« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2013, 10:57:03 am »
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Yes well there had to be something that started the rumours but this topic seems to echo a western version of the yammy guys and the LRL crowd which 5% fact and 95% dreams and if they examine that 5% that might be all they need to find the answers,

ALL cccalco has done is print (copy and Paste ) text from some writers books, Jack London's book Call of the Wild is far more believeble than the claims of some of the text these posters have put here because they are writing it as if they were there and there is no way can they have that kind of access to the past unless they contact the spiritual world, Just (snake oil) salesmen,

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« Reply #123 on: May 23, 2013, 02:59:02 pm »
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Jack London's book Call of the Wild is far more believeble than the claims of some of the text


And that would be because Jack London actually lived much of what he wrote as opposed to imagining it with little of no personal experience.


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« Reply #124 on: May 23, 2013, 03:12:37 pm »
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Yes BA, I have watched a few versions of that movie and I like the one with Richard Dreyfus Narrating it with Rutger hauer playing the Lead

A person could not write like that unless there was some kind of emotional tie

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« Reply #125 on: May 29, 2013, 10:24:03 am »
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Knights of the Golden Circle: Secret Empire, Southern Secession, Civil War
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Based on years of exhaustive and meticulous research, David C. Keehn’s study provides the first comprehensive analysis of the Knights of the Golden Circle, a secret southern society that initially sought to establish a slave-holding empire in the “Golden Circle” region of Mexico, the Caribbean, and Central America. Keehn reveals the origins, rituals, structure, and complex history of this mysterious group, including its later involvement in the secession movement. Members supported southern governors in precipitating disunion, filled the ranks of the nascent Confederate Army, and organized rearguard actions during the Civil War. The Knights of the Golden Circle emerged around 1858 when a secret society formed by a Cincinnati businessman merged with the pro-expansionist Order of the Lone Star, which already had 15,000 members. The following year, the Knights began publishing their own newspaper and established their headquarters in Washington, D. C. In 1860, during their first attempt to create the Golden Circle, several thousand Knights assembled in southern Texas to “colonize” northern Mexico. Due to insufficient resources and organizational shortfalls, however, that filibuster failed. Later, the Knights shifted their focus and began pushing for disunion, spearheading pro-secession rallies, and intimidating Unionists in the South. They appointed regional military commanders from the ranks of the South’s major political and military figures, including men such as Elkanah Greer of Texas, Paul J. Semmes of Georgia, Robert C. Tyler of Maryland, and Virginius D. Groner of Virginia. Followers also established allies with the South’s rabidly pro-secession “fire-eaters,” which included individuals such as Barnwell Rhett, Louis Wigfall, Henry Wise, and William Yancey. According to Keehn, the Knights likely carried out a variety of other clandestine actions before the Civil War, including attempts by insurgents to take over federal forts in Virginia and North Carolina, the activation of pro-southern militia around Washington, D. C. and a planned assassination of Abraham Lincoln as he passed through Baltimore in early 1861 on the way to his inauguration. Once the fighting began, the Knights helped build the emerging Confederate Army and assisted with the pro-Confederate Copperhead movement in northern states. With the war all but lost, various Knights supported one of their members, John Wilkes Booth, in his plot to abduct and assassinate President Lincoln. Keehn’s fast-paced, engaging narrative demonstrates that the Knights proved more substantial than historians have traditionally assumed and provides a new perspective on southern secession and the outbreak of the Civil War

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« Reply #126 on: May 29, 2013, 12:53:51 pm »
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Indeed. Cut and paste is his best friend.


Well thats all he seems to be able to do, no fact checking no original research just he said he wrote he he he. Until these guys get off their butts and go to the library of Congress and the many collages archive departments in the south to get some real documentation they will remain the burden true hunters must deal with.   


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But it makes good TV and sells magazines.   Wink


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