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« Reply #100 on: July 03, 2011, 10:58:49 pm »
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RO, These guys dont come calling every time we talk detectors, now everyone did ask you to let them be
and now it's turning to crap again, Why cant they discuss their choosen topics in peace,

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Posted on: July 03, 2011, 10:38:28 PM
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Yep. No post goes without an insult.


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« Reply #101 on: July 03, 2011, 11:08:34 pm »
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Yep. No post goes without an insult.




Why because he said you were trying to be a horse butt I agree thats what you are doing just baiting these guys every chance you get. I am going to ask you for the last time unless you have information to add  please let these guys have there discussion, and stop baiting the LRL guys.

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« Reply #102 on: July 04, 2011, 08:18:08 am »
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Why because he said you were trying to be a horse butt I agree thats what you are doing just baiting these guys every chance you get. I am going to ask you for the last time unless you have information to add  please let these guys have there discussion, and stop baiting the LRL guys.


I'm the opposition in the discussion. I am not a horses butt, nor is my opinion worthless. I am not a troll or naysayer, but a poster with pertinent information about the topic. It just so happens my reliable references, sources and documentation does not support their opinion.

Without opposition, the thread is simply a message board full of "atta-boys" and not an OPEN FORUM.

I would much rather discuss the device than be insulted, banter with and threatened for voicing MY opinion.

To stay on topic, and adding to the discussion... here is the court ruling for a PERMANENT INJUNCTION... where the LRL was found scientifically unsound and incorrect:

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« Reply #103 on: July 04, 2011, 09:17:53 am »
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Now R O,, There's a huge difference between humor and insults. I'm fooling with you, trying to keep it light. I'm sorry you can't tell the difference. Did you see any; low down, dog pocket, so & so & so ? Than would be an insult. Go on, call me a youngster, make my day,,, please. And I didn't say you WERE a horses butt, I said you were trying to ACT like one at that moment. BIG difference.  When I said I went to the moon I was a liar AT THAT moment.

And guys, he's right. He is the other side of the coin. I don't mind, I was probably worse than him at one time. After I had found a small henway everything became clear, and life continued.

Posted on: July 04, 2011, 08:50:06 AM
Now if you took your coil detector and tried to find robin eggs, how many do you think you'd get?  That's what happens if you take a MFD (function generator) and try to find bombs.

Anyone here able to list the types of explosives in ALL bombs?? Not a chance. How could you have the freqs for them?

I'll grant you, you may, be able to tune a good f/g to A bomb, but what did you tune to?  The case, the detonator, a wire, or one of a hundred other things. It would take a wild computer program to do that, and since no one has correctly identified the force (energy, signal, resonance) involved, how do you make a sensor to control the changes?

That device is not relevant to what we are doing now. No one I am involved with has an unaltered factory unit. What does that tell you?  (take notes, there will be a test later) One guy has over 4,000 in gold in his, another has a f/g that can tune down to .001 of a hz., another has added 2 antennas to his. Don't forget the over driven henway.

Posted on: July 04, 2011, 09:08:59 AM
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I believe that there will be long range gold detectors ( Tesla used frequency (matching) to cause shaking of buildings and earthquakes).

It is hinted at that everything has a frequency, find the right frequency for the element you are looking for (remember elements are rarely found in pure form to) & design a machine that can home in on precise or near frequency targets.

Metal detectors use magnetic fields disruptions to find metalic objects.

Up in Colorado I've seen (back in the 70s & 80s) helicopters & planes towing huge coils or antennias, looking for what ?  Big ore pockets ? Treasure ?

Just thougt I'd throw my two-cents in..................HaRM


Let's look at this. We actually used a magnetron microwave generator on a couple of runs. I made a wave guide for it, we got behind trees, fired that puppy off with a LOOOONG cord, and blew out a multimeter that was in the line of fire. No great advantage with it.

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« Reply #104 on: July 04, 2011, 09:32:09 am »
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RO, this topic started off with two guys taking shots at skeptics or what ever you want to call them.
but they still wanted to discuss their gizmos but that never got off the ground due to intervention by others,
These folk have the right to discuss this topic without someone shouting Liar Liar, they are not trying to convince you
they were trying to talk between them selves and I asked them to explain the hows and whys, they are not trying
to con anyone they are just ansewering questions that I have asked, if you dont like their ansewers then change channel,
you dont have to counter their replies and considering the flack they have copped I'm glad they stuck around,
90% of people dont believe in LRLs etc, But they do so just let them Be.

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Posted on: July 04, 2011, 09:23:59 AM
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fired that puppy off with a LOOOONG cord, and blew out a multimeter that was in the line of fire.


well you ain't getting your hands on my top of the range Fluke, what on earth was you trying to do? and what
does that thing do, apart from kill multimeters

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« Reply #105 on: July 04, 2011, 09:41:08 am »
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You know R/R, I only have one complaint about the critics. Why won't they try any experiments to see what we are talking about?  Once you "know" there is an unseen "force" the understanding can commence. Without that knowledge, I don't know what it would take.

Some have tried it and say it didn't do anything. If they would have got the neighbor and put it in his hands with little instructions other than go, the reality would have come out.

If your mind is set against this, the real "idiot-motor" effect will happen. As soon as the "rod" starts to move the hand will correct it, keeping it straight. The initial start of movement is very soft (on simple rods) and momentum builds. It is very easy to "correct". There is one of the keys, recognizing a real "hit" and not a wobble from stepping wrong.

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« Reply #106 on: July 04, 2011, 09:49:42 am »
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Fenix, I know these ar'nt the same as dowsing but I have seen that done and I have met someone over here that can do it,
I dont have the ansewers as to why or how but I am willing to keep my mind open and thats all we need to start finding out
I was going to ask about the wobble effect and how can you tell if someone makes it do it's thing

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We were trying to kill the B/S around the target to make pinpointing more precise. Here's an example; In an area 110 ft round, the gps wouldn't work, the lrls kept pointing all around, things went nuts. The area was way too thick to clear the whole thing. This was not the only one of these we have had. Figured an EMP may change things. Actually it took a 700,000 v stungun and a henway to make a difference.

You have to lie to the subject. Like if you have them with just coat hangers in the yard and you know there are electric lines.

Tell them the rod is going to pull down or shake. If they get the reaction swing--- all good. I've had them apologize for not getting what I told them. This eliminates any idiot-motor stuff one way or the other.

The look on their faces is cool. That's when you know they can do it.

When I get a reaction, I back up and move forward several times. Then you can move over, change the angle you came into the "line" and do it again. Remember the initial movement is soft. I'll scan (sweep) the rod to find the locations.



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You know R/R, I only have one complaint about the critics. Why won't they try any experiments to see what we are talking about?  Once you "know" there is an unseen "force" the understanding can commence. Without that knowledge, I don't know what it would take.

Fenix, you have a self proclaimed technology that cannot be explained, has no basis in scientific proof, is unseen and yet you scorn or mock those who are skeptical? That's about as disingenuous as it comes.

The real question should not be why won't others try it. The question should be why won't you submit to scientific scrutiny?

I was with a fellow once who was dowsing. He got stiff, started moaning and claimed that he was being taken over by the force of his mind and acted as if he was moving against a heavy tide of water as he walked stiff legged in a forward direction. I heard a faint sound. He stopped, opened the flap on his shirt pocket and removed his cell phone and answered it, "Anderson's dowsing services. This is John." For those concerned with such things, that's not his real name.

He was faking his little psychic seizure which cleared up the instant his next victim, I mean customer, called him for a dowsing.

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« Reply #109 on: July 04, 2011, 01:45:20 pm »
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I would much rather discuss the device than be insulted, banter with and threatened for voicing MY opinion.




You don't have an opinion RO you have a bad case of posting links or quoting other peoples research without any first hand expertise. Thats all we have asked of you are anyone on this thread lets keep it to what we know for a fact though hands on research not from some old stuff you dig up with google.  






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