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« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2011, 01:59:21 pm »
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Amen, what Seldom said.
Thanks ya'll for sharring your trials and errors, it's much better to share these things because if we start at the begining
the knowledge will grow,

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« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2011, 02:31:22 pm »
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No sweat. I completely understand.

I had strictly used coil units for many years. One trip I worked an area and skipped the places you couldn't see 3 ft, much less swing a coil. Found a few relics, nothing major. I came back 4 days later to go beyond the first area, and friend when I got there ,,o-boy. There were 4 holes in those unreachable places. One, they had cut trees down, drove a wrecker in and pulled it out. I later found out they were using a lrl. I had seen them before and didn't pay any attention to them as they didn't have a detector out, I thought they were surveyors.

The things I talk about, if I did not personally experience them, no way would I buy into it. Some of the things we are doing now, still seem too weird to be true. So really, I expect the storm. Hell, if it wasn't me I'd be with them.

I guess that's why I scan around any find. I like the relics.

Back to the point. Just because I say it, and someone does not believe it, does not mean I lied.

 It means someone didn't believe the truth. Now, how far am I going to prove it to them? Show them how I do this, post photos that could have been faked, not going to happen. The post was not meant for them anyway.

So, if someone wants to think I'm posting wild tales, that's just what they are, bedtime stories. For the ones that see the truth in it, it's something they can relate to. Fair balance.

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« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2011, 02:47:38 pm »
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Fenix, you would be very hard pressed to find an area in the USA where someone has not been at some point in time. Thus, when you find a relic, to me it is absolutely no surprise. I could walk just about anywhere, stop and say "dig here" and the chances are better than 50/50 that you will find something man made, some water or something of value. It's no miracle and it is not dowsing. It's statistical data put to best use. The odds are in your favor.

When you go someplace where you have researched, you increase the odds astronomically and will in fact have some success based on that, not dowsing. What you call weird, others call research.

If you choose to believe that you find things by some psychic gift, then you go for it. If others choose to ask for concrete evidence or proof, blame that on the Discovery Channel who offers only scientifically proven discoveries.

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« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2011, 02:55:53 pm »
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Fenix proving things may come later, But in the past that has been the be all, here the method and the success''s
are what is coming to light here because that is the start to understanding,
In the past proof has been the main intervention but not this time
reason 1) no one is trying to sell anything 2, there are many here that dont understand the concept so your efforts
have gone to good use, and we are still listerning, HH

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« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2011, 05:14:05 pm »
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Funny, Carl told me the same thing about "random chance".  Well I wanted to see if he was right. So no reports, no college studies, I went out in the yard and set the rules for what I was going to do. I took it past what Carl said for my satisfaction.

Here's what happened. I took 10, not 5 like Carl said, golf balls and threw them out in the yard. I didn't just search 5 ft I went 10 at first. Well, the farm house has been here 100+ years. There were targets the Minelab hit on all metal around 9 of them. Carl was right.     Until, I threw them in the field. After the 10 ft sweep I took it to 20. Not 1 target around any of them. This was the field I went straight to 2 targets, 1 was 700 ft in and the other was 900 ft in.  Carl was wrong in this case.

Do I hunt in yards--no    Have I scanned on the way back to the truck--yes   Were there targets everywhere---no

Soooo, depending on where you hunt, no targets, some targets, and a lot of targets.
I have tried to disprove a lot of things. I don't take anyone's word for it, I don't Google it, I don't fall in with someone else's opinion, i go out and do it to MY satisfaction. Pretty simple and dam accurate. Then when I say something about it and some x-spurt tells me different, I know he has not proved it to himself. Of course he has no idea how foolish he looks to me or someone that has tried it and knows better. but so goes human nature.



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« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2011, 06:28:04 pm »
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Quote:Posted by fenixdigger

Soooo, depending on where you hunt, no targets, some targets, and a lot of targets.
I have tried to disprove a lot of things. I don't take anyone's word for it, I don't Google it, I don't fall in with someone else's opinion, i go out and do it to MY satisfaction. Pretty simple and dam accurate. Then when I say something about it and some x-spurt tells me different, I know he has not proved it to himself. Of course he has no idea how foolish he looks to me or someone that has tried it and knows better. but so goes human nature.



So, by calling Skeptics foolish... does that somehow validate your claim?

The answer is no. It is simply shows your intent of NOT posting about Long Range Locators... but, to insult and belittle Skeptics in a dubious manner.

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« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2011, 06:52:08 pm »
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Quote:Posted by Rational Observer
So, by calling Skeptics foolish... does that somehow validate your claim?

The answer is no. It is simply shows your intent of NOT posting about Long Range Locators... but, to insult and belittle Skeptics in a dubious manner.


Although fenix slipped that one in, I can understand why and I think that is because in the past LRL user's had to justify
every word and he like many have had to post knowing they will be jumped by people shouting proof proof, he's not trying to
sell anything here so he does'nt have to prove a thing, If I find a coin 12 to14" deep no one shouts BoŁŁoŁks prove it at me,
I would like to hear more about their quest .

Fenix,I understand you were using that text as a referrance and not as a directed comment but it would be good we could
miss out anything that might be taken two ways, cheers,

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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2011, 06:55:02 pm »
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Let me clear that up.
Notice when someone starts the statement with so, some inference is fixing to get twisted. I try to use sooo. that way it's obvious there's a conclusion coming.

I wasn't calling anyone foolish. I said they appeared that way. BIG difference. And RO, anytime the truth becomes an insult,
well that has to do with perspective. They don't know and are not doing it intentionally. When that changes, yes foolish.

Why are we talking about this anyway? You left out the part about the Lrl targets. You haven't got to argue with me for a while have you?  Missed me huh?  Let's make it easy,,,, Yesterday I took my Lrl to the moon.  Wink, wink

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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2011, 07:06:30 pm »
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I have tried to disprove a lot of things. I don't take anyone's word for it, I don't Google it, I don't fall in with someone else's opinion, i go out and do it to MY satisfaction.




And thanks for that Fenix, thats what we need is first hand experiences both pro and con not armchair wannabe's posting links and quotes without any hand's on  experiences. Yes I am still a nonbeliever and will still post my negative experiences until I have a positive one to post. Will one positive experience make me a believer no probable not but I would still post it.
Me GD AU and most of the rest here are not closed mined but do require proof, we also understand that you can't post pictures of gold bars that were found with your lrl so it all comes down to trust and respect for each other. I have a lot of respect for you Art and Ike because you all will discuss your machines and your belief in them at the same time ignoring the trolls and naysayers.    


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« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2011, 07:24:52 pm »
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It would be hard to believe how much it takes to convince any of my crew of something. Something different comes up, 5 people are going to try it to make dam sure. If it's better, it stays. With all the crap units that have been  thrown at people, I can't fault the naysayers one bit. But there comes a time to use your ears and eyes and leave the mouth out. Shocked

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