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« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2011, 10:53:05 am »
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You were wrong.

Help someone, can one please moderate an ignorant moderator.

What do you need to admit you are just telling malarkey? Charles Garrett himself telling you?

Plus i DID test it along with a Vk 40 and my own Compadre.

I do not dunk the ACE 250. I always told it is an excellent coinshooter; no way a self adjusting GB machine on wet salt sands as you told, , and never was it designed for these conditions.

I am surprised you became a moderator here. Try to moderate yourself first ! Should be a good thing for this forum !

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« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2011, 02:19:53 pm »
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You were wrong.

Help someone, can one please moderate an ignorant moderator.

What do you need to admit you are just telling malarkey? Charles Garrett himself telling you?

Plus i DID test it along with a Vk 40 and my own Compadre.

I do not dunk the ACE 250. I always told it is an excellent coinshooter; no way a self adjusting GB machine on wet salt sands as you told, , and never was it designed for these conditions.

I am surprised you became a moderator here. Try to moderate yourself first ! Should be a good thing for this forum !

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Your not going to prove anything that way. The technique I posted here works. Just ask some of the guys who came back here and told you that. You don't have to believe me. Your opinion is really quite irrelevant so go ahead and have the last word.

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« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2011, 01:00:17 am »
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Well siree I have been detecting beaches for a long, long time.

I never saw a detector which, as claimed by its manufacturer, and confirmed to this forum by the factory, has a PRESET FIXED GROUND BALANCE STEEING to suit most treasure hunting situations, hunt efficiently and with no falsing on wet sand beaches.

AUTOMATIC ground balance means that you do not need to make any adjustments at all, NOT that the detector auto-adapts to ground conditions.

Turning the detetor OFF and then again ON will NEVER adjust the GB. Foolish, stupid, and absolutely impossible.

BTW, Garrett makes some fine units that are suited to work on wet salty beaches, the ACES were NOT designed for that. Of course, one can try its luck, but redicing the sens AND discriminating a bit more are no suitable options.

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« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2011, 02:48:21 am »
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Turning the detetor OFF and then again ON will NEVER adjust the GB. Foolish, stupid, and absolutely impossible.

I'm quite certain you believe that. In fact, I have no doubt you believe that.

The Ace 250 ground balance is not adjustable. I never said it was. But, I do know how it works and how to make it work on wet sand. I pass that information on to those who wish to try it. What's the harm in that? Those who have tried it have had success. Why does that trouble you so? Why does it trouble you that a moderator would disagree with you? Is it written somewhere that moderators must agree with you? I missed that memorandum when it was issued.

By the way, welcome back to the forums. Glad to see you starting to post again even if it is only a single minded determination to see that my simple suggestion, which works, becomes your focus. At least you are active again. You have a mere 4 posts in recent times and all of them are to disagree with me. Perhaps you'd prefer dueling pistols at 20 paces?

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« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2011, 12:00:12 pm »
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Help someone, can one please moderate an ignorant moderator.


No but I can and will moderate you want to see. He is right been proven your wrong move on.

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« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2011, 12:23:36 am »
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I have usually no troubles with moderators at all. I just disagree with a method that is proven by test ineffective and has no relying on serious electronics background. This could induce users in bad disappointment.

I am still waiting for technical proof. never saw a clue of it. Give me one and I'll move on.

So, the described method is empirical...there's nothing wrong to try it - i did -, even believing it works, but  it's precious time wasted with a mono frequency entry level unit that was not designed for that, the ACE 250 is far more efficient on the dry part of the beaches.

Wet salty sands hunting is such a specialized part of the hobby, that it there was the slightiest that this should work, It would be known worldwide. And, believe me, it is NOT.

But do not worry...I'll quit, this discussion is so unrealistic that I will unsubscribe to it and go back hunting.So it is with pleasure that I leave you the last -wrong - word, if that is so important to you.

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« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2011, 05:21:35 am »
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5 posts, 5 times going for a moderator. I actually hoped you might have something to contribute to these forums but clearly I was wrong.

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« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2011, 11:50:05 am »
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Just a few more words, I noticed that some postings on this thread disappeared.

Just the ones telling about an email received from garrett electronics about what you call on start Gbing.

Curious, very curious..

Just re-read the thread, not only will you " discover" that posts disappear, but you will find people telling the poor results they got on wet sands with their aces.

And indeed, I stayed away from the forum. Guess why...

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« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2011, 12:10:00 pm »
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Just a few more words, I noticed that some postings on this thread disappeared.

Just the ones telling about an email received from garrett electronics about what you call on start Gbing.

Curious, very curious..

Just re-read the thread, not only will you " discover" that posts disappear, but you will find people telling the poor results they got on wet sands with their aces.

And indeed, I stayed away from the forum. Guess why...

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I find absolutely NO evidence of posts missing from this thread.  Perhaps you are referring to a post on one of the other threads that covered the same topic.

And for every post I read in the thread from people getting poor results in wet sand, I read at least 1 post from a user saying they got good results (frequently with tips or "tricks" they used).  In situations like that, especially when others can follow the recommend tip and reproduce the results, I'm going to chalk the difference up to "possibly" environmental differences, but more likely problems with the User, not the machine.

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« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2011, 12:28:46 pm »
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Just a few more words, I noticed that some postings on this thread disappeared.

 

We have been hearing that since July 1 2009 Yet you still show up ever few months to stir up controversy.The Ace 250 is a good sand machine not the best but a good one. Several hunters on the island are finding gold and silver everyday with theirs in the wet sand and water so I see the problem not with the 250 but with your unwillingness to learn how to use it. We see this daily where folks want to blame their detector for their short comings. Sorry dude but I think this is all you.

 Just re-read the thread, not only will you " discover" that posts disappear, but you will find people telling the poor results they got on wet sands with their aces.

There has been no post deleted from this thread, you really need to stop blaming the mod's for all your problems. We have a no delete policy so unless you re posting  spam its all good.

I am sorry that you are proven wrong but learn to live with in and move on.

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