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« Reply #140 on: January 24, 2010, 06:39:13 pm »
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Well prove your point first don't switch the topic just because you were caught wrong. Who was the first to access them?

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« Reply #141 on: January 24, 2010, 06:48:22 pm »
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Well prove your point first don't switch the topic just because you were caught wrong. Who was the first to access them?


Caught wrong? Because I outed the "source"...the author himself? What...are you on drugs?

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« Reply #142 on: January 24, 2010, 06:51:49 pm »
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You can't out him if you can't provide evidence that he wasn't the first with access to these records. You aren't doing very good at proving your point.

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« Reply #143 on: January 24, 2010, 08:32:43 pm »
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You can't out him if you can't provide evidence that he wasn't the first with access to these records. You aren't doing very good at proving your point.


LOL...you've got a long bumpy road ahead of you with that philosophy. If you consider a sales pitch from the author of a novel as truth (giggles), maybe real history isn't quite your cup of tea

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« Reply #144 on: January 24, 2010, 08:46:24 pm »
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You have that completely backwards. He provided evidence. You are just giving your opinions against this matters. I guess your observations aren't very rational at all.

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« Reply #145 on: January 25, 2010, 03:45:17 am »
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You have that completely backwards. He provided evidence. You are just giving your opinions against this matters. I guess your observations aren't very rational at all.


I have it backwards...because it does not serve your agenda? Nope. Most conspiracy theorists, such as yourself, cling to any little reference they can find as gospel truth. In this case, calling a sale pitch by the author "evidence" is obviously clutching at straws. He provided evidence...by writing it down. LOL

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« Reply #146 on: January 25, 2010, 04:04:37 pm »
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You have that completely backwards. He provided evidence. You are just giving your opinions against this matters. I guess your observations aren't very rational at all.


Justin, what he provided is TESTIMONY, which can be false. It's up to YOU to prove it is EVIDENCE by finding proof of his testimony. It's basic research techniques that are lacking in this quest for KGC gold. So far, there has been nothing BUT unproven testimony.

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« Reply #147 on: January 25, 2010, 11:09:41 pm »
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DAILY CONSTITUTIONALIST [AUGUSTA, GA]
January - July, 1861 

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            By an order of Gen. Bickly we learn that he has been laboring in Kentucky since the first of February last, principally in Louisville and has added to the order one thousand four hundred and forty-three members, five hundred and thirty four of whom have been sent to the army of the Confederate States.  Two regiments are now being formed in the State to be held subject to the orders of the Governor.  The order has now seventeen thousand six hundred and forty-three men in the field, and the president has no hesitation in saying that the number can be duplicated if necessity requires. 

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« Reply #148 on: January 26, 2010, 10:48:26 pm »
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Yea I understand what you say GD. I'm just trying to explain to RO that he can't just automatically assume its a "sales pitch" and throw it straight out the window. He needs to actually do some research behind it. All I have asked of him is to prove that it's wrong. Especially the fact that he keeps telling me that the author wasn't the first to gain access. I just want him to actually do some research and prove it, or disprove it, whatever way you look at it. O and by the way GD, how did the researching go on that guy that passed away?

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« Reply #149 on: January 27, 2010, 03:47:35 am »
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Quote:Posted by justint538
Yea I understand what you say GD. I'm just trying to explain to RO that he can't just automatically assume its a "sales pitch" and throw it straight out the window. He needs to actually do some research behind it. All I have asked of him is to prove that it's wrong. Especially the fact that he keeps telling me that the author wasn't the first to gain access. I just want him to actually do some research and prove it, or disprove it, whatever way you look at it. O and by the way GD, how did the researching go on that guy that passed away?


Try providing some sources that agree with your conspiracy theories, and maybe you will be taken seriously and not a troll or lackey for Texas Jay. Asking someone to prove something doesn't exist is just asinine and shows your ignorance in how to debate a controversial subject.

Maybe you can provide some reliable references or sources stating the Baker-Turner papers were "sealed".

"The Turner-Baker papers were brought together after the war by the Bureau of Military Justice. The arrangement of the case files began in 1869; work on Turner's papers was completed in 1871 and on Baker's in 1873. The papers remained in the Bureau of Military Justice until they were turned over to the Record and Pension Office in 1894. Ultimately all records of the latter office were merged with those of the Office of the Adjutant General."

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