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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2010, 09:43:26 am »
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I am now considering getting a PI detector for the beach and use the 250 elsewhere. But, I see I can get a Minelab Quattro, which is still using VLF. I haven't toally researched this detector, but it can be bought for about ?250 on ebay. Which is only ?90 more than the 250. Rather than step foot in the realms of machines costing ?500, do you think the quattro will serve all purposes for now? The beach near me is normal wet sand to about 3" then it goes to a dark grey sand, which I am presuming is the mineralisation. I do understand now that all VLF are limited on such ground.

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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2010, 10:10:37 am »
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Hi again !

I do have a Quattro.

This is one of the best machines for the beach. But you must know that it performs at its best in areas that are poor in iron trash.

Use it in "trash density" high all the time, push the sens to the maximum possible, something between 18 and 20, and carefuly dig every cracky signal  that would do the ID jump and showing max depth : those are non-ferrous targets around 12/14 inches (coin sized).

Be aware that the unit is heavy, that you will go deeper (beyond your dreams) with larger coils, and that it is not a good choice outside the beach.

The kind of unit that pays for itself in just one summer month at the price you can get it.

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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2010, 10:53:22 am »
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^ Sounds good. But why is it no good away from he beach? I think I want 1 detector that's a good allrounder. With regard to the quattro does it have auto ground balance that works on highly mineralised ground, and is it manually adjustable? I think I will sell the 250 and get the quattro, another reasonably priced detector that looks modern. Yeah, I know older PI machines that look 50 years old, actually rip up the beach, but hey ho. Smiley

For any other brits on here, how does the quattro do regarding finding roman/celtic relics?

Think I need to browse other forums for that question. Smiley

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« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2010, 08:15:09 am »
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Well, The Quattro is a slow recoverer. If you disc iron out, like for instance in the coins mode, the unit will "null" on iron and probably miss any goodies near it.

might even NOT recover your threshold back.

Wet sand beaches are generally not loaded with iron trash, inland sites are.

A partial solution, as I wrote previously, is the use of the High trash mode, and to lower the sens somewhere between 6 to 8 (still getting good depth in those junky areas.).

The unit needs also slow sweeping. Meaning slooooow.

But it's definitely a great beach, and especially wet sand, unit.

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« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2010, 03:39:32 pm »
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Well bought a Fisher F5 last week and tried it all all weekend. Recovery seems very quick and it works fine on the wet sand near me. Just need to suss out the best gain/threshold; All Metal or desc settings for optimum usage. But loving it compared to a cheap pi and the ace250. Audio and visual id rocks. Smiley Found a 1900 Victorian Penny as my first ever coin find on Blackpool beach.  Great

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« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2010, 06:03:47 pm »
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I have to agree with Tabog and his statement
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Few VLF machines do real well on wet salt beaches.
Especially those without manual ground balance or ground tracking. also People may find some shallow targets on salt beaches
and think they are doin OK. And they are. But they do not how little depth they are getting?
They dont and because they find a few trinkets think they have a great machine.
But I guarantee that if they were to test their machine against a PI and try to detect or even get a signal that the PI wa getting thier jawls would drop and realise they are only fooling themselves.
However why the hell should i concern myself in this game its horse for courses I back and use winners not losers.
Give me a PI anyday VLFs with never come close to the performance of a good PI and with the 2nd hand market you could possibly pick up a good working PI for what youd pay for a wannabee el cheepo beach machine.
But hey? its your money do with it as you like, do I care? no sir, i couldnt give a hoot because Im a winner not a loser and I know whats best. 

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2010, 06:57:57 pm »
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Beachcomer, Excellent thead, I wish I had read it before I purchased my first detector (garrett 150) Especially the link to the

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I live in Florida have hunted the beach. About 3" max for a penny in saturated sand but
Where the lack of depth is especially evident is in a productive and highly hunted old town site on dry sand.(The railroad went away in 1945 and so did the town) The old stuff is 6-10 inches down and is overlain by recent trash. I'm hunting with old guys with much better detectors and they came up with coins and relics from around 1880 from 6-10 inches, I dug a nice selection of pop tops and bottle caps from 1970.

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« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2010, 10:42:42 pm »
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Good show GoldDigger------ How  do you like a know-it all(that just has to tell it like it is) most don't know what it is ,where it is, or why it is.

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Quote:Posted by HUNTER007
Good show GoldDigger------ How  do you like a know-it all(that just has to tell it like it is) most don't know what it is ,where it is, or why it is.


Perhaps you could try writing that in English for us.

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« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2010, 09:38:44 am »
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So which inexpensive MD machine is best for the beach?

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