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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2006, 05:55:36 pm »
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Hi Bran,
Well spotted on all your observations, I understand your frustration at not being able to see the whole of the charts, however, the writing that you refer to is only relevant when you find the location of the island.
It contains the directions for finding the cache , once the island has been located.

They were not deliberately masked from any of you, I just took a quick photo of them and uploaded the resultant pics to the post.
There is a lot more to be noted about these charts, before you need to concern yourself with the actual location of the Cache!.
Best wishes Crowsnest.


Is there anything near the longitude and latitude as described on the maps. Huh? Huh?

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2006, 07:07:14 pm »
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Hi Shadow, Hi Steve,

Firstly, to answer you shadow, Yes! there are quite a number of disguised and hidden meanings within the charts.
Although, I was referring to the words, reefs, at the bottom of the China Sea chart.

Steve, if you try to locate a position from the Long. and lat. on the China Sea Chart, it puts you somewhere in the Middle of AFRICA!!

Therefore, the charts must hold other keys as to their true positions!.
If the Charts are genuine, then everything needed to find their location, will be within the Chart.
Not necessarily, in the way  a casual observer could make any use of.

Best wishes crowsnest.


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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2006, 07:22:25 pm »
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Very Intresting

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2006, 09:20:23 pm »
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Quote:Posted by crowsnest1
Hi Bran,
Well spotted on all your observations, I understand your frustration at not being able to see the whole of the charts, however, the writing that you refer to is only relevant when you find the location of the island.
It contains the directions for finding the cache , once the island has been located.

They were not deliberately masked from any of you, I just took a quick photo of them and uploaded the resultant pics to the post.
There is a lot more to be noted about these charts, before you need to concern yourself with the actual location of the Cache!.
Best wishes Crowsnest.


Crowsnest,
       Thanks. I've not been so much frustrated, just really intrigued by the maps. I just bought I brand new digital SLR camera and wish I could take a few shots myself, so that it's in higher resolution and quality. Good job though making due with what you have. Yes, I agree that the information as a whole is irrelevant without finding the actual island. But it's the research that leads to caches of treasure anyway. I knew that "Reefs" word to the left looked different, it just wasn't clear enough for me to make out the differences. Although I'm "still" not too sure it was the same person that wrote both of those words, because the writing in one is nothing like the writing in the other. Even hiding messages within the word shouldn't completely change the handwriting that much, I don't believe? I just feel that it should similarize the other word, which is doesn't, if I'm looking at it correctly? Sadly, and I'm not noting you to be at fault, I don't think with the clarity I can fabricate much more from these maps. Not without looking at the originals or higher resolution of the originals, myself. But all the same, they are quite fascinating. Good luck with them, unless you've already deciphered them... which I feel confident you have.  Wink

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2006, 11:43:10 pm »
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if you try to locate a position from the Long. and lat. on the China Sea Chart, it puts you somewhere in the Middle of AFRICA!! crowsnest.


A long shot, I know, but the top of Burundi kind of looks like Kidd's chart. China Sea could just be a code word. Maybe it's not an island at all. Sue

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2006, 05:43:28 am »
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Hi All,

There are obviously some very interesting views and opinions, being formed from these posts.

If you like, we can take another look at a couple of the words, within the charts and the islands, they portray.

It would appear that the same person, probably made both charts, there are obvious differences, in the way some words have been "Drawn".
Therefore these words need closer scrutiny, for instance, why are the words "LAGOON", a little different from one another.
The China Sea chart, has a wavy line, across the top of the "L". ??

The islands themselves, differ greatly, the shape, the position of rocks and reefs.??

Are the islands in the foreground, really there!!

Could it be that the "Artist", has used an old trick, to mask the true meaning of these charts.

If the main island that you see on both charts has been "enlarged" and placed in the foreground, to enable the viewer to see the layout of the island.
Then it could be that the main island is one of the rocks and reefs, which appear to surround it!???

This method is a simple way to disguise an island group, which is what a navigator, in the 17th/18th, century would look for, along with some local geographical points, such as headlands, mountains and rivers, then he could use the given Lat. and Long. which would be accurate from this position.!!??

Therefore the island in the foreground, is not really there, in fact it is one of the islands in the ""lagoon"".

As an example, enlarge one of the lesser know islands of the Hawain group, shrink the rest,  around it and you would not recognise the group.

Best wishes crowsnest.    Eureka!!!!!!!

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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2006, 10:18:38 am »
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Well, my post is unfortunately offtopic (sorry  Wink) but I just wanted to say welcome aboard Shadow! Thanks for posting and I hope you will keep on ejoying the forum.

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2006, 11:37:52 am »
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The more I look at these maps, the more thoughts I have. I guess, mainly, why wasn't the island drawn so that N would be point true N instead of NE - unless that line is important as a clue.

Also, everthing seems to be so symmetrical on the China Sea map - I don't think he was trying to create an artistically balanced drawing, so I find that unusual.

Could the other one have been a rough draft and the China Sea one drawn while he was at sea with more time? Sue

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2006, 04:39:52 pm »
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Hello and thank you for the welcome.
Family visit today so short on time. Might be one of a group of islands. Tried to decipher some marks last night. No luck. Chicken and egg question. What came first burying the treasure or drawing the maps. Shadow

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2006, 05:01:38 pm »
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Hello and thank you for the welcome.
Family visit today so short on time. Might be one of a group of islands. Tried to decipher some marks last night. No luck. Chicken and egg question. What came first burying the treasure or drawing the maps. Shadow


That's the way it is with a lot of the so called "treasures"

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