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« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2010, 06:49:59 pm »
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I'm certainly not asking for strict moderation, I don't do it on my own sites and don't encourage it on other people's sites.  The point was that from the way things look with certain topics around here, strict moderation would be the only way to keep the conversation civil and productive, so I guess these topics will never be civil and productive.  I don't think you could moderate these topics even if you wanted to, because I doubt you could find somebody neutral enough in their opinions to moderate them.

There may be a bug in the way the "report post" functionality of the board is set up.  I'll dig into that later tonight and see if I can find any issues.  You certainly wouldn't have been singled out to be prevented from reporting a post, because that's just too much work under the hood to set up.   Maybe a user group permission or even a subforum permission... I don't know.  I'm still getting accustomed to the "behind the curtain" stuff for this particular board, but I assure you, it's not you individually being prevented from reporting posts.  If you can't report one, neither can anybody else, and Christian very well may have a good reason for that.  I'll just have to investigate it and find out.

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« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2010, 08:26:02 pm »
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I'm afraid that "strict moderation" is not allowed on this subforum.  I tried that, when I was moderator, and was not allowed to "moderate" so I resigned.  Now, whenever I even try to "report" an insulting or derogatory message from here, I get an error message so I cannot even do that.  As a result, anarchy, off-topic converstations, insults, and unsourced opinions reign supreme.   Smiley
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Jay, to put the record straight: You did not resign but I had removed you as a moderator as you would just abuse your power in order to delete any posting which was not in favor of your very own oppinions and views. This is NOT what a moderator is supposed to do.

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« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2010, 08:37:04 pm »
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Christian, to put the record even straighter, I announced on this board, before you removed me, that I would no longer serve as moderator of a subforum where moderation was not allowed.  Check the message and compare it to the time you removed me and I think you will see I am right.  What you want are "yes men" and not moderators.  Well, I am not one of those.
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« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2010, 09:08:29 pm »
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Jay, I agree. You are not a yes man but a no man. Your never did apply any moderation (that is balancing things) to these boards but simply deleting everything you didn't like on a personal level. Thatis NOT moderation.

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« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2010, 09:37:18 pm »
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Well, Christian, you asked me to moderate this subforum which was my suggestion to begin with.  I didn't have time to waste bickering with GoldDigger1950, Irrational Observer, and I don't have time to waste bickering with you either.  So, you can do what you want with your subforum which should be called "Naysaying the Knights of the Golden Circle" because that is all you will allow on here. 
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« Reply #135 on: February 11, 2010, 09:51:36 pm »
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Jay, again you are wrong: If I would only allow critics here then I would have had to delete all of your postings. Also if I was acting like  you have been I would have to delete your postings diricted towards me. However I do not delete postings unless they are insulting. Doing so kills a discussion and is probanly the reason why you have less than 1 posting a day on your Yahoo Group - which is basically dead and probably killed by your "moderation". This will however be my last post to this discussion as I feel you are unwilling or unable to see my point or what moderating is all about.

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« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2010, 01:14:42 am »
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One post a day???  Who are you trying to fool?  Here are the plainly visible results of our message activity for every month since my group's inception in 2006.  You apparently have been going to the naysayers' groups which are dead.  Ours is one of the most active groups on Yahoo which anyone can clearly see here:


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2008 524  523  394  334  390  640  467  537  364  480  345  432 
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« Reply #137 on: February 12, 2010, 01:26:09 am »
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Well like I've already indicated, this topic is one of those that can't really be moderated anyway, so there's not a whole lot of reason to bicker about why trying to moderate it failed.  

I just wish these threads could advance without decending into the mosh pit, because I truly find them interesting.  I don't mind conflicting opinions on topics, in fact the conflicting opinions make it more mysterious and that makes it even more interesting.  When they bog down into name calling and mud slinging though, they just get monotonous and boring, so I'd ask everybody to just try to keep your sticks in your pocket and quit poking each other in the eye.  If we cooperate with each other here, no matter how badly we want to believe one side or the other, there may actually be a truth come out of it eventually.  The bottom line is that there *is* a truth... but bickering about it just because you believe one side or the other does not prove the truth and only distracts from the whole goal of getting to the truth.

Just my .02.  I'll shut up now.  Carry on.

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« Reply #138 on: February 12, 2010, 01:26:41 am »
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Since I have tried to find a way to delete ALL of my posts on this subforum and discovered that the "delete" option is not available to me, I hereby request that Christian or one of the Administrators of this subforum REMOVE ALL OF MY MESSAGES AND TOPICS THAT I CREATED IMMEDIATELY!  Failure to do so will result in legal action.
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« Reply #139 on: February 12, 2010, 01:33:40 am »
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Well I think if you'll read the terms of service on this site you'll find that the posts you have made are automatically the property of the site, so removal will be at the discretion of the owner, and you won't have a leg to stand on if you try legal action.

Why don't you just cool down and think about this for a bit.  We don't want you to run away and you don't want to run away.  You're hot right now, and it's understandable.  Sleep on it, and if you still want to be deleted tomorrow, we can make it happen.

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